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		<title>By: Moody</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6277</link>
		<dc:creator>Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pretentious comment! It&#039;s typical, of course.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First of all, I am not &quot;of little faith&quot;; I have no faith whatsoever. Secondly, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll go anywhere. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anywhere to go. You believe you&#039;ll go somewhere, but you haven&#039;t died—so you can&#039;t know, you can only believe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thirdly, I do not lead a &quot;worry free, careless life&quot;. I don&#039;t recall you walking a mile in my shoes, so how could you know whether or not my life is free of worries and care? Seems to me that you feel it&#039;s your place to judge me without knowing me at all. How very holy of you. Oh, and it&#039;s a nice touch, that &quot;You will pay later&quot; business. Did you shake your fist at the screen after you typed it? How self-righteous and boorish. I bet you relish the idea of seeing me &quot;on judgment day&quot;, don&#039;t you. Gets you all excited and fills you with pride, I bet, thinking of seeing me realize the terrible, irreversible error of my ways (i.e., not believing in your merciful, loving &quot;Lord&quot;) as I am condemned to an eternity of screaming, burning, unforgiving hell. The smiley face is a nice touch (also typical; smugness is apparently universal among your kind).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, I have to note that you failed to address any of the points I made in my post. All you offered was instant judgment, smugness, and ignorance. Congratulations! I am sure you fit in very nicely with the rest of your congregation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, you &quot;don&#039;t even know&quot;, either. You believe. To believe is not the same as &quot;to know&quot;. To speak your belief is not &quot;to speak the truth&quot;. Not that I expect you&#039;ll listen to me; I expect (assuming you read this at all) that you&#039;ll simply judge it (as you judge me) as something ungodly and therefore worthless. I suppose that, in the end, this is only fair; after all, I think your faith is utterly stupid and I pity you. Please note: no smiley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pretentious comment! It&#39;s typical, of course.</p>
<p>First of all, I am not &#8220;of little faith&#8221;; I have no faith whatsoever. Secondly, I don&#39;t think I&#39;ll go anywhere. I don&#39;t think there&#39;s anywhere to go. You believe you&#39;ll go somewhere, but you haven&#39;t died—so you can&#39;t know, you can only believe.</p>
<p>Thirdly, I do not lead a &#8220;worry free, careless life&#8221;. I don&#39;t recall you walking a mile in my shoes, so how could you know whether or not my life is free of worries and care? Seems to me that you feel it&#39;s your place to judge me without knowing me at all. How very holy of you. Oh, and it&#39;s a nice touch, that &#8220;You will pay later&#8221; business. Did you shake your fist at the screen after you typed it? How self-righteous and boorish. I bet you relish the idea of seeing me &#8220;on judgment day&#8221;, don&#39;t you. Gets you all excited and fills you with pride, I bet, thinking of seeing me realize the terrible, irreversible error of my ways (i.e., not believing in your merciful, loving &#8220;Lord&#8221;) as I am condemned to an eternity of screaming, burning, unforgiving hell. The smiley face is a nice touch (also typical; smugness is apparently universal among your kind).</p>
<p>Finally, I have to note that you failed to address any of the points I made in my post. All you offered was instant judgment, smugness, and ignorance. Congratulations! I am sure you fit in very nicely with the rest of your congregation.</p>
<p>By the way, you &#8220;don&#39;t even know&#8221;, either. You believe. To believe is not the same as &#8220;to know&#8221;. To speak your belief is not &#8220;to speak the truth&#8221;. Not that I expect you&#39;ll listen to me; I expect (assuming you read this at all) that you&#39;ll simply judge it (as you judge me) as something ungodly and therefore worthless. I suppose that, in the end, this is only fair; after all, I think your faith is utterly stupid and I pity you. Please note: no smiley.</p>
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		<title>By: fourteendashseven</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6275</link>
		<dc:creator>fourteendashseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you of little faith. I pray for your soul, the day your spirit leaves your body and this sick sad world is the day you never to see. Who knows where you will go. You dont even know! So enjoy your worry free, careless life. You will pay later. &lt;br&gt;God bless those who lack knowing the truth. &lt;br&gt;See you on judgement day! =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you of little faith. I pray for your soul, the day your spirit leaves your body and this sick sad world is the day you never to see. Who knows where you will go. You dont even know! So enjoy your worry free, careless life. You will pay later. <br />God bless those who lack knowing the truth. <br />See you on judgement day! =)</p>
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		<title>By: Moody834</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6201</link>
		<dc:creator>Moody834</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the kind words. 
 
I agree with you about reality being ultimately far more satisfying than any fantasy. It is an amazing thing to me that anyone would prefer just-so stories over something that he or she could actually prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Once the &quot;softly spoken magic spell&quot; has been broken and one&#039;s eyes have been opened, one gets off one&#039;s knees and finds it dumbfounding that one spent so much time thinking that there were angels and demons and gods and whatnot, when reality is so much grander and impressive and mind-blowing... and accessible. 
 
But of course we want from time to time to have that warm embrace of protection from the cold, cruel side of the world. I suppose the best we can do is to find it in healthy, loving relationships with other warm, living, real human beings. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the kind words. </p>
<p>I agree with you about reality being ultimately far more satisfying than any fantasy. It is an amazing thing to me that anyone would prefer just-so stories over something that he or she could actually prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Once the &quot;softly spoken magic spell&quot; has been broken and one&#039;s eyes have been opened, one gets off one&#039;s knees and finds it dumbfounding that one spent so much time thinking that there were angels and demons and gods and whatnot, when reality is so much grander and impressive and mind-blowing&#8230; and accessible. </p>
<p>But of course we want from time to time to have that warm embrace of protection from the cold, cruel side of the world. I suppose the best we can do is to find it in healthy, loving relationships with other warm, living, real human beings. </p>
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		<title>By: mathyoo</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6200</link>
		<dc:creator>mathyoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beautiful post. I, too, sometimes wish I had that buffer to cushion the effects of reality, but ultimately I find reality far more satisfying than the fairy tales of religion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful post. I, too, sometimes wish I had that buffer to cushion the effects of reality, but ultimately I find reality far more satisfying than the fairy tales of religion. </p>
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		<title>By: Moody834</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6198</link>
		<dc:creator>Moody834</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah... Oh, goodness. I&#039;m sorry about the difficulty. Thank you for toughing it out and leaving me such a nice comment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230; Oh, goodness. I&#039;m sorry about the difficulty. Thank you for toughing it out and leaving me such a nice comment. </p>
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		<title>By: J Nernoff</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6197</link>
		<dc:creator>J Nernoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to post a comment but your system could only deny me 6 different ways: name wrong, too long, used numbers or whatever, user name already used, my session expired.... You are very creative, like writing a letter to a communist newspaper. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to post a comment but your system could only deny me 6 different ways: name wrong, too long, used numbers or whatever, user name already used, my session expired&#8230;. You are very creative, like writing a letter to a communist newspaper. </p>
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		<title>By: Moody834</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6184</link>
		<dc:creator>Moody834</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happiness is transient, which is as it should be. Overrated? By lots of people, sure. But taken as it comes, naturally as a result of whatever factors, it&#039;s not a bad thing. It&#039;s when we start striving for it like it&#039;s the end goal of a life that we run into trouble. The &quot;pursuit of happiness&quot; is frequently the &quot;running away from&#8230;&quot; something else. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happiness is transient, which is as it should be. Overrated? By lots of people, sure. But taken as it comes, naturally as a result of whatever factors, it&#039;s not a bad thing. It&#039;s when we start striving for it like it&#039;s the end goal of a life that we run into trouble. The &quot;pursuit of happiness&quot; is frequently the &quot;running away from&hellip;&quot; something else. </p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6183</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And besides, happiness is overrated. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And besides, happiness is overrated. </p>
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		<title>By: Moody834</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6182</link>
		<dc:creator>Moody834</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing is, I have in fact gotten things I really desired and found them to be as fulfilling as I could have ever dared to hope they&#039;d be. In time, everything changes. But there is no telling how they will change. Some things change for the better, and some for the worse. And sometimes it is we who change (for good or ill) and so our perceptions of those outside things changes as well. 
 
I maintain that the basic lessons of the Buddha cut closest to the bone of the issue. I maintain this because I have had enough experience with it to know that, were I willing to relinquish my own habits and long-term desires, it could indeed bring to me a peace that would transcend my temporal wants and perturbations. I stubbornly hold onto old habits because some part of me still wants to and I am not willing to fight it. Maybe someday I will be there. Paradoxically, I am also aware that all the wants and perturbations teach me lessons I can use to better myself over the long run. Everything is a lesson if that&#039;s how we choose to see it... or nothing is. It&#039;s always up to us, if we can but see that it is so. 
 
See also: &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvMoRVrqx_I&amp;eurl&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Life&#039;s what you make it&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, I have in fact gotten things I really desired and found them to be as fulfilling as I could have ever dared to hope they&#039;d be. In time, everything changes. But there is no telling how they will change. Some things change for the better, and some for the worse. And sometimes it is we who change (for good or ill) and so our perceptions of those outside things changes as well. </p>
<p>I maintain that the basic lessons of the Buddha cut closest to the bone of the issue. I maintain this because I have had enough experience with it to know that, were I willing to relinquish my own habits and long-term desires, it could indeed bring to me a peace that would transcend my temporal wants and perturbations. I stubbornly hold onto old habits because some part of me still wants to and I am not willing to fight it. Maybe someday I will be there. Paradoxically, I am also aware that all the wants and perturbations teach me lessons I can use to better myself over the long run. Everything is a lesson if that&#039;s how we choose to see it&#8230; or nothing is. It&#039;s always up to us, if we can but see that it is so. </p>
<p>See also: &quot;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvMoRVrqx_I&amp;eurl" target="_blank">Life&#039;s what you make it</a>&quot;. </p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://verywide.net/blog/2009/03/15/what-if-i-believed/comment-page-1/#comment-6181</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I yield to Matt Johnson: 
 &quot;And have you ever wanted something so badly 
that it possessed your body &amp; your soul 
through the night &amp; through the day 
until you finally get it! 
And then you realise that it wasn&#039;t what you wanted after all. 
And then those selfsame sickly little thoughts 
now go &amp; attach themselves to something.... 
....or somebody....new! 
And the whole goddamn thing starts all over again. 
Well, I&#039;ve been crushing the symptoms but I can&#039;t locate the 
cause. 
Could God really be so cruel? 
To give us feelings that could never be fulfilled. Baby! 
I&#039;ve got my sights set on you. I&#039;ve got my sight set on you 
And someday, someday, someday, you&#039;ll come my way. 
But when you put your arms around me 
I&#039;ll be looking over your shoulder for something new 
&#039;cause I ain&#039;t ever found peace upon the breast of a girl 
I ain&#039;t ever found peace with the religion of the world 
I ain&#039;t ever found peace at the bottom of a glass 
sometimes it seems the more I ask for the less I receive 
sometimes it seems the more I ask for the less I receive 
The only true freedom is freedom from the heart&#039;s desires 
&amp; the only true happiness....this way lies.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I yield to Matt Johnson:<br />
 &quot;And have you ever wanted something so badly<br />
that it possessed your body &amp; your soul<br />
through the night &amp; through the day<br />
until you finally get it!<br />
And then you realise that it wasn&#039;t what you wanted after all.<br />
And then those selfsame sickly little thoughts<br />
now go &amp; attach themselves to something&#8230;.<br />
&#8230;.or somebody&#8230;.new!<br />
And the whole goddamn thing starts all over again.<br />
Well, I&#039;ve been crushing the symptoms but I can&#039;t locate the<br />
cause.<br />
Could God really be so cruel?<br />
To give us feelings that could never be fulfilled. Baby!<br />
I&#039;ve got my sights set on you. I&#039;ve got my sight set on you<br />
And someday, someday, someday, you&#039;ll come my way.<br />
But when you put your arms around me<br />
I&#039;ll be looking over your shoulder for something new<br />
&#039;cause I ain&#039;t ever found peace upon the breast of a girl<br />
I ain&#039;t ever found peace with the religion of the world<br />
I ain&#039;t ever found peace at the bottom of a glass<br />
sometimes it seems the more I ask for the less I receive<br />
sometimes it seems the more I ask for the less I receive<br />
The only true freedom is freedom from the heart&#039;s desires<br />
&amp; the only true happiness&#8230;.this way lies.&quot; </p>
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